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Jim Bakker’s prayers are answered less often now. A far cry from a world of theme parks and network-level TV production values, the minister, who never fully got up after falling from grace, today resides 30 miles from Branson, Missouri, hosting low-rent religious shows in a hotel theater, in which he hawks freeze-dried food and survival gear at trumped-up prices to Christians awaiting the apocalypse. At 74, he’s a preacher for preppers. The programs, as amateurish as they are disturbing, are recorded and shown on religious cable stations. They play like infomercials for the end of the world.

His son, Jay Bakker, who’s become a far more progressive holy man after surviving myriad addictions, is the latest guest on Marc Maron’s WTF podcast. It’s a fascinating conversation about an American family like few others. Just one interesting tidbit: The elder Bakker was the original host of The 700 Club and was elbowed aside by station owner Pat Robertson, who had never been a minister but wanted the spotlight for himself. Listen here.

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I don’t collect books or records or anything. I love well-designed, beautiful things that make me happy, but I don’t have a deep need to own them. (Jack Nicholson and Anjelica Huston, photographed in 1971 by Julian Wasser, disagreed with me on this matter.From a Guardian piece about the value of vinyl by Marc Maron, who seems wonderful from a distance:

“The appeal of vinyl is a mysterious thing. Even when you talk to people who make records, who know how the sound gets from the groove to the stylus into the amp and out through the speakers, it’s still kind of magical, in some weird way. The idea of analog, even with its crackle and pops, the idea of this sound being pulled off this rotating disc through these other elements, I think there’s integrity to that, as opposed to this mystifying sequence of zeroes and ones that make that digital sound. I have no idea how the hell that works. It seems detached, inhuman.

At some point in the last two years, I got a renewed interest in playing records. I’d had turntables before, and I had a box of records that I’d been carting around since high school. I always knew in the back of my head that records had more integrity than digital music. I went to interview Jack White at his place in Nashville, and he’s a real analog guy. He had these Mackintosh tube amps, and I got hung up on the idea of getting a tube amp, but the ones Jack had were $15,000. There was no way I could spend that kind of money on stereo equipment and enjoy it; I’d always be thinking, does this sound like $15,000? I don’t think so.

I’ve got around 2,000 records now, and I play music constantly.”

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“Are you fed up with constantly searching for the records you want?”

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When a kid, I had a seemingly a priori dislike for two things: religion and magic. Not unrelated, right? Yet, I was still forced to go to church and coerced into a Broadway matinee of The Magic Show starring Doug Henning. Well, it usually starred Henning. The day I attended, the lead was his understudy, some dipstick who donned a Henning-esque wig and facial hair. Even dumber. Anyhow, I thought of it recently because Marc Maron had Ivan Reitman on WTF, and the now-famed Hollywood director discussed his involvement in launching the original version (called Spellbound) in Canada. Howard Shore and Paul Shaffer apparently got their start in show business working for Henning’s north-of-the-border stage shenanigans.

But magic wasn’t enough for Henning. He also founded a political organization, The Natural Law Party, which helped him lose elections very badly in both the UK and Canada. Sometimes democracy works.

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On Marc Maron’s latest WTF podcast, his guest, Illeana Douglas, recalls how her grandfather, the legendary actor Melvyn Douglas, revealed to her that the future of technology would be personal:

“I remember the day my grandfather said to me, ‘They’ve invented this thing–it’s going to change everything. It’s called the Walkman.’ It was gigantic. It was the first–and I still have it to this day. They’d given it to him as a present on Being There.”

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Future Vice President Spiro Agnew, who smiled once and chipped a tooth, being interviewed by John Chancellor in 1968 about the Chicago riots and his running mate’s refusal to address the protests. Considering our current political climate, these were the good old days.

Fun thing: Natasha Lyonne, the very talented actress, guested this week on Marc Maron’s WTF podcast. She said her Jewish ancestors left Europe to escape Nazism, arrived without much money or prospects in America, and eventually bettered themselves through selling Spiro Agnew watches, which were apparently a popular novelty a little more than four decades ago.

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I mentioned that iconic Let’s Make a Deal host Monty Hall, who would present you with the options and inform you of the benefits and consequences, would be making his debut, at 92, on Marc Maron’s WTF podcast this Thursday. Here’s a brief audio clip of the two discussing Twitter. Hall sounds great.

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Two items related to game shows:

I think I miss stuff sometimes because I don’t have a television, but did the rest of you know that Monty Hall is still alive? The Let’s Make a Deal host and inspiration for a probability puzzle, now 92, will be interviewed this Thursday on Marc Maron’s WTF podcast, which is always excellent except when his guests are chefs or Thom Yorke.

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The two nicest comedians I’ve had chance meetings with are Catherine O’Hara and the late Phil Hartman. As you might guess, Hartman was very into his own head and quiet when not in character, but he was also very sweet. Here he is as “Philip Hartman” in a 1979 Dating Game episode, which aired, of course, during the original run of Saturday Night Live, where he was to later become an Aykroyd-ish star. Beginning at the 10:40 mark.

 

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The above quote comes from an excellent WTF podcast interview that Marc Maron conducted with writer and theorist Douglas Rushkoff. I don’t agree with everything that Rushkoff has to say about technology, social media and economics, much of which comes from his new book, Present Shock, but all of it made me think. In addition to his remark about the offline migration of the very counterculture that was the early adapter of the Internet, the other point he made that interested me is that a society heavily dependent on robotics may not be compatible with traditional capitalism.

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Stand-up comedian Marc Maron, frenemy of Louis C.K., is having a big week, releasing a new book and debuting an IFC TV show. It’s interesting the people we connect to at a distance: I have no patience for bitter people who scream at others a lot, so I likely wouldn’t tolerate someone like Maron if I knew him personally. But I love his stage work and podcast. The comic just did an Ask Me Anything on Reddit. A few exchanges follow.

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Question:

If you could interview 5 dead comics, who would they be?

Marc Maron:

Kinison, Hicks, Pryor, Lenny and Carlin.

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Question:

Who is that one comedian that will not come on the show? You mentioned him in passing in the early days but not recently. I think I had it figured out to be Adam Sandler, but I can’t remember. Is there anyone you pissed off so bad back in the day that they will never do your show?

Marc Maron:

Tosh doesn’t want to because he doesn’t want to. Not for any anger reasons. I don’t know… wait. You’re thinking of Jon Stewart. He won’t do it.

Question:

Is there a reason Stewart won’t do it? I’d like nothing more than to hear you two geniuses talk.

Marc Maron:

I was a dick to him, a lot, when we were younger. He remembers that and doesn’t like me. I get it.

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Question:

Do you miss hating George W Bush?

Marc Maron:

No.

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Question:

How do you imagine your life turning out had you had 20 years ago the success you’re having now?

Marc Maron:

Probably dead before the 20-year mark or I would’ve ruined it somehow.

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Question:

Can you tell us about any of the times you drunkenly made out with Louis CK?

Marc Maron:

Wow. I have no recollection of that. You better ask him.•

 

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One of this week’s guests on Marc Maron’s WTF podcast is 87-year-old Dick Van Dyke. The guest discusses his career, especially his amazing run during the 1960s (Bye Bye Birdie, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, the Dick Van Dyke Show, Mary Poppins), but he also mentions something I had never heard: Before his great success, in the mid-1950s, he was the host of CBS national morning show (as Charlie Rose is today), and his news reader was Walter Cronkite and one of his writers was Barbara Walters. It’s a fun listen if you get the chance, though Maron’s show always is.

Here Van Dyke is joined by Lucille Ball on his 1976 variety show for a skit about human augmentation, which is still only in its infancy. Not quite as dark a take as John Frankenheimer’s Seconds, as you might imagine.

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I was listening to one of  Marc Maron’s WTF podcasts not to long ago, the one with Doug Stanhope. I really like the both of them and think they’re incredibly talented. But one passage rubbed me the wrong way. The host and his guest both agreed that voting for one politician or another doesn’t matter, that they’re all the same and nothing really changes. You can chalk it up to just two comics riffing, but I hear this bullshit too much, almost always from educated people. It’s as if they’re disappointed idealists who can’t have perfection so they don’t want to try.

Voting really matters. Not all politicians are the same. People’s lives really hang in the balance. Social Security is very important. It means a great deal to older Americans. Only some politicians would have fought for it. Invading Iraq was a decision that led to the deaths of at least tens of thousands of people. Thirty million at-risk Americans having health insurance will only occur if the Affordable Care Act survives. FEMA run correctly can save lives–or it can be dismantled as can Medicaid, Medicare and other programs.

Neither candidate in this or any other election is going to be perfect, is going to make everything alright. But the idea that everything is corrupt and nothing matters is as much an impediment to progress as any venal politician. 

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