On Marc Maron’s latest WTF podcast, his guest, Illeana Douglas, recalls how her grandfather, the legendary actor Melvyn Douglas, revealed to her that the future of technology would be personal:

“I remember the day my grandfather said to me, ‘They’ve invented this thing–it’s going to change everything. It’s called the Walkman.’ It was gigantic. It was the first–and I still have it to this day. They’d given it to him as a present on Being There.”